Def Jam cofounder Rick Rubin said he sees AI as a tool that could help people who don’t consider themselves artists make art, including those who can’t draw or play instruments.

On Monday’s episode of “Diary of a CEO,” Rubin shared his thoughts on the role of human creativity in AI art and how prompting fits into the creative process.

“I don’t have any talent. I have no way to express my creativity. But I could talk to the AI, and maybe I could prompt the AI into making something beautiful, through iteration and prompting,” Rubin told podcast host Steven Bartlett.

He said AI could enable more people to be creative, calling it “a beautiful…